Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.

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Haunani-Kay Trask

Hawaiian sovereignty advocate and Professor of Hawaiian Studies with the Kamakakuokalani Center for Hawaiian Studies at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu

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Date: 2009-06-21

Trask has represented Native Hawaiians in the United Nations and various other global forums. She is the author of several books of poetry and nonfiction, an activist and outspoken advocate for the Hawaiian sovereignty movement (ke ea Hawai‘i), which consists of organizations and individuals seeking some form of sovereignty for Hawaii.

In this interview she speaks of the ailing economy in the Hawaiian Islands and the negative effects of Hawaii’s tourism industry on the welfare of the Hawaiian people. She refers to the huge United States military presence in Hawaii and its devastating effects on self-determination and self-governance for people of whole or part native Hawaiian ancestry in their homeland. Hawaii is not surprisingly experiencing the effects of the economic collapse of the US and the wider world. Trask thinks its very sad that rather than planting food in these sunny, fertile islands with a year round growing season, too many local people are focused on getting more tourists to come to Hawaii. She brings attention to the fact that more native Hawaiians now live outside of Hawaii, mostly on the US mainland, while sadly the population of the Hawaii includes more and more non-Hawaiians, many of whom are so rich that they build huge houses there where they spend only a few weeks a year. Trask vividly draws a picture of the economic, cultural and spiritual elements behind her opposition to the tourism industry and briskly states how non-native listeners can best be a positive element for change by not visiting or residing in Hawaii.

Interview conducted in May 2009

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