Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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For Immediate Release
Contact: Sue Supriano
East Bay Post Carbon Solutions Group
Ph: 510/496-6080


Celebrated authors, Joanna Macy and Richard Heinberg, headline an evening presented by the East Bay Post Carbon Solutions Group, Beyond Oil II, on June 14, 2005 at 7PM at the First Congregational Church, 2501 Harrison Street in Oakland.  This evening of conversation will give our community the tools to better understand how to begin preparing for a time of energy scarcity and climate change.

In the context of what she calls "the Great Turning," Joanna will speak about awakening to the reality of climate change and the depletion of oil resources, thereby moving from denial into action.  Her talk will prepare us for fully absorbing Richard's presentation.

Richard's presentation will be actual practice for the awakening Joanna describes.  He will report back from the 4th Annual Conference of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO) in Lisbon.  He will also discuss practical steps we can take now in our own communities to prepare for these changes.

Eco-philosopher Joanna Macy, Ph.D. (, scholar of Buddhism, general systems theory, and deep ecology, is also a leading voice in movements for peace, justice, and a safe environment.  Her wide-ranging work addresses psychological and spiritual issues of the nuclear age, the cultivation of ecological awareness, and the fruitful resonance between Buddhist thought and contemporary science.  She serves as adjunct professor to the Starr King School for the Ministry, the University of Creation Spirituality, and the California Institute of Integral Studies.  Among other works, she is the author of Coming Back to Life: Practices to Reconnect Our Lives, Our World

Richard Heinberg (, journalist and lecturer, is a core faculty member of New College of California, where he teaches courses on Energy and Society, and Culture, Ecology and Sustainable Community.  His monthly MuseLetter has been nominated for an Alternative Press Award, he has been published in many journals, and his books have been translated into eight languages.  Richard travels internationally to speak on the subject of Peak Oil.  His latest books are: The Party's Over: Energy Resources and the Fate of Industrial Societies; and Powerdown: options and actions for a post-carbon world.

Sponsored by Post Carbon Institute, Ecology Center, KPFA, and City Repair Oakland West (CROW).

The East Bay Post Carbon Solutions Group is a local grassroots organization.  Currently, we meet once a week and welcome new members.  A conference is also planned for September which will address how we can begin now to find hopeful and positive responses to the inevitable changes that will accompany the rapidly-approaching depletion of oil.

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Please spread the word about this event on 9/11 and about 9/11. You won't get this info on the corporate media.

Great Crimes / A Greater Cover-Up
September 11, 2003, 7:00-10:00 p.m.
Humanist Hall, 390 27th St. (B'way & Telegraph)
Oakland, CA 94612

KEN JENKINS' video '9/11 Perspective'
JEFF STRAHL on Whatever Hit the Pentagon
JIM HOFFMAN on Demolition of Twin Towers
YURI KOCHIYAMA on Oil, Opium and World Wars
JOSEPH WANZALA on Resisting Neo-Colonialism
DON PAUL on Refusing Lies and Creating Alternatives
15-Minute Presentations and 15 Minutes of Public Interaction each
Messages from researchers A.K. DEWDNEY (Canada)
and GERARD HOLMGREN (Australia)
Sliding-scale $5-to-$25 contribution benefits publication of the 9/11 / Great Crimes / A Greater Cover-Up booklet

The North Tower. A first--a skyscraper explodes into dust early in its collapse! The Pentagon hit. Another first--an airliner makes a hole less than half its size!

Media Release for 9/11 Great Crimes / A Greater Cover-Up

What: Talks, videos, digital messages and public interaction about the 'Crime of the 21st Century'
Where: Humanist Hall, 390 27th St. (between Broadway and Telegraph),
Oakland, CA 94612
When: Thursday, September 11, 2003, 7:00-10:00 p.m.
Who: S. F. Bay Area researchers Jim Hoffman, Ken Jenkins, Yuri Kochiyama, Don Paul, Jeff Strahl and Joseph Wanzala, plus A. K. Dewdney from Canada and Gerard Holmgren from Australia.

Two years after the " 'Attack on America' " that Government and media have sensationalized relentlessly, " '9/11' " and its consequent " 'War on Terror' " remain the pretext for U.S. invasions of oil-rich regions around the world (Afghanistan, Iraq, western Africa, northern South America) and for repression of civil liberties.

Almost all media in the U. S. have failed to even begin investigation of the unprecedented military and engineering failures that caused thousands to die on September 11, 2001.

This second-anniversary event brings together researchers from the S. F. Bay Area, Australia and Canada to discuss with the public some of the major impossibities and implausibilities in the accounts and explanations given by the U.S. Government and almost all media about 9/11/01.

  • Why is the " '9/11' " hole in the Pentagon's west block less than half the size of the Boeing 757-200 that was American Airlines Flight 77?
  • Why did both the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center explode into dust early in their collapses?
  • Why has Afghanistan's production of opium for heroin increased more than 2000% since the U. S. invasion of late 2001?
  • Why is the U.S. military in Liberia and Colombia?
  • Why are there so many shared elements between " 'Pearl Harbor' ", the assassinations of JFK and MLK, and " '9/11' "?
Along with exposing big lies in offical and mass-media accounts of " '9/11' ", this second-anniversary event will discuss how everyday people may gain control of their society and their rights as human beings.
  • How can we broaden and increase non-commercial media?
  • How can we build alternative economies?
  • How can we diminish our dependence on oil and gas?
  • How can we overcome those really responsible for " '9/11' " and countless other crimes?
The $5-to-$25 contribution to the event will go toward publication of researchers' 9/11 / Great Crimes / A Greater Cover-Up booklet.

"In Germany first they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me-and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-- Pastor Martin Niemoller

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